Thrustmaster T16000M FCS Flight Pack (Compatible with PC)

I have a lot of things to say about this incredible piece of equipment, but here's a TLDR for people who want a quick glance at multiple reviews: it's one of the cheapest flight control sets you can find on the market that still delivers high quality performance to any game you choose, however it must be noted that the controls can easily move around if you push or pull too hard and that right-handed people will naturally feel better with the controls. Now, let's start with all of the negatives just so everyone is aware. 1. Firstly, the material that the set is composed of is relatively cheap plastic. This doesn't detract from the feel of it (at least in my opinion), as the handles have nice grips to assist you (the yoke actually has a rubber siding for your comfort, which I love). Because of this, it's not exactly the heaviest thing in the world, so you can imagine what it might be like jumping into an FA-18 Super Hornet and absolutely sending it into a steep turn. If you can't, I'll put it this way: the controls will fly, not you. They don't fall off the table, but they may raise up a little bit and disorient you. Also, the rudder pedals function the same way. Make sure you are not pushing or pulling down on them too hard or they will end up moving (and in my case that's bad because I have a foot-rest bar from one end of the bottom of my desk to the other, and you can put two and two together). Wear shoes when you're using the rudders for maximum comfort and performance. A solution to this entire problem could be to buy some clamps for the desk and floor, but I have yet to do that since the issue isn't big enough for me to throw away more money. 2. The throttle and yoke combo is made for right-handed people, so if you are left-handed like me, be mindful that holding the controls the way you'd prefer may not feel exceptional. That in no way means it isn't comfortable, however my hands begin to ache a tiny bit after long hours of gameplay because of the unnatural angle they're positioned at. This only happens after extremely long sessions, though, and all things considered, holding the controls still feels nice the wrong way. If you easily get carpal tunnel or other hand aches, be mindful of this, please. 3. Last but not least, make sure you are wary of the fact that if you're in a game and need to use your mouse for something, the controls may disconnect and require that you press a button to recalibrate them. This sometimes puts me into an immediately steep climb in Microsoft Flight Simulator and thus either a stall or an annoying gain in altitude. This issue can be avoided by retaining the position your controls were in when you paused, however, if that doesn't work, be prepared to immediately readjust your controls. Now it's time to explain how much butt this thing kicks. 1. The controls are SUPER realistic. The throttle, yoke, and rudder pedals make you feel like you are genuinely in control of a full-blown aircraft. Not much else to say on that. 2. There are tons of buttons to suit your needs. The yoke has multiple buttons on its top, and a plethora of buttons on its base. The throttle has numerous, quirky-looking buttons behind the throttle itself. While the rudder pedals don't have buttons, they don't need any. That wouldn't make much sense. The brakes and movement capabilities of them are super intricate! 3. The controls are incredibly easy to set up, but make sure you have enough USB slots. I did not, so I purchased a dongle with four USB ports so that I could connect everything at once and make my setup literally plug-and-play. Note, however, that the rudder has a specific, ethernet-looking cord that you may not have a slot for in your computer. I believe it can connect to the throttle, but I haven't seen the slot for it so don't quote me on that. I went ahead and purchased an adapter for the rudder pedals so that everything was able to go into a USB port. It's a little extra money that you might not want to spend, but I chose convenience over price and I do not regret it in the slightest. 4. For the last major plus side to this set, it feels comfortable. I'm a left-handed person, and you already know this thing is right-handed, so there is a little bit of a discrepancy in my review. However, nothing can take away from how comfortable the set feels when you're in the cockpit of an aircraft. The yoke is made extremely well for how cheap it probably is, the throttle allows your hand to rest nicely while flying, and the rudder pedals are sturdy, meaning they won't move around unless you push a little hard (it's also harder to rudder in the air, but be careful so as to not accidentally press them mid-air, or your aircraft may do things it was never meant to do. I'm so pleased with this set, and it was one of my bigger purchases for my own entertainment. So far, nothing has genuinely let me down. A few nitpicks here and there, but that is almost completely overshadowed once you actually get into the air. There's so much more I could say that I loved about the controls, but that would make my review applicable for a Harvard essay. I highly recommend this product to anyone interested in playing an aviation-based game because of its affordability and feel. Hope you found this review helpful. Throttle on!

Edit: I have updated my review to reflect what I have discovered. Previously I had thought that the adapter required for connection to a PC was missing. To my embarrassment it indeed is not required. When you receive this product take a good look at the throttle. On the back(connection) side is a port installed specifically for the rudder pedals once I realized this install was a snap and all is working flawlessly. My apologize to Thrustmaster for doubting them. Original Post: The controls are amazing, and installation was flawless. Product was well packed and received promptly. However, the package is sold as PC compatible and the adapter that is required for the rudder pedals are not included. The additional adapter is not expensive, but this package should not be sold without a clear notification that additional adapters maybe required. This is the reason for the ding of one star, otherwise it would have been 5.

Pretty decent pair of flight sticks, unfortunately the one I had broke after a few months and had to toss it due to stick drift on the throttle.

Flight pack is a great value. Internally this stick has the same sensors as the much more expensive Warthog but of course does not have the same build quality. I own the Warthog which I love, but my son hated how stiff it was. We tried a T.Flight Hotas 4 which worked and felt good but simply did not have enough buttons and switches for the more complex sims. It is a good budget solution if you don't mind using a keyboard for some of the functions. I purchased the Logitech X52 Pro for him which was not as precise but had a very comfortable throttle. Unfortunately it stopped working after two weeks and had to be returned.We replaced it with this and it works great. As a bonus it has a native profile in Games like Elite dangerous and does not need to be configured like the other two but it does lack some functionality because it has only one 8 way hat switch on the joystick. Also the buttons are placed on the base of the joystick and require you to remove your hand to reach them. Overall I believe it represents the best bang for the buck for Flight / Space sims.

Updated: So, I ended up having the T16000 set for about a year and a half before the problems started to get too much to deal with. Specifically, the throttle control kept getting worse. Even taking the entire system apart and cleaning everything with low pressure air and contact cleaner only helped for a short period of time. Lubricating the throttle glide bars alleviated the stickiness only for a short time and replacing the friction pads was an exercise in frustration. Then one of the hat switches failed. At this point, I'd had enough. I replaced this junk with a very nice piece of kit from Virpil. Don't spend more than $200 on this junk as it'll just be a e-waste in an insanely short period of time. Save up a bit more and get something that will last. Original review: Consider this a beginner's kit. This setup has everything you need for flight sim games, including lots - and I mean lots - of buttons. Take notes after configuring this thing though; if you're not playing the same game constantly, there may be some relearning - and that's not a good thing in the middle of a firefight. There are several noted quality problems with components of this rig, but so far the only one I've encountered is my throttle seems to max out at 95%. If I push it to its stops, the input to the PC becomes inconsistent. A minor irritation for the moment, but worth knocking a star off. For the price, it works okay; and yes, it's expensive. But the quality stuff is eye-watering.

Bought this to practice flight simulation on a Ubuntu System and Flightgear software. Most items need major tweaking to work on Linux distro's, but this was 99% plug in and go straight out of the box. Solid construction especially on the foot pedals and throttle units.

Siempre al calificar considero indispensable considerar lo que he pagado por el producto. Este HOTAS con pedales no es perfecto, pero es mucho más de lo que se puede esperar por el precio. Pros: Plásticos de buena calidad, funcionamiento preciso, muchos botones de fácil acceso, ergonómico, peso adecuado para que los componentes no se muevan. Cons: El throttle en ocasiones no fluye tan suave como se esperaría (sobre todo al inicio de cada uso). Mejora mucho al ajustar el tornillo de tensión, llegando a ser casi perfecto. Se hubiera beneficiado de un sistema con balines, pero, de nuevo, hay que considerar el bajo costo... Otras consideraciones: Mi "cuarta" (distancia entre punta de meñique y pulgar con mano totalmente extendida) es de 23 cms. Las personas con manos un poco más grandes, encontrarán más cómodo el throttle (alcanzarán todos lo botones más fácilmente). Los pedales serían más cómodos si estuvieran unos cms. más separados. Estos no son puntos negativos, sólo consideraciones, pues la apreciación depende totalmente de la persona que los está usando.

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The box came will all three, I repeat, ALL THREE items inclusive of the rudder pedals, throttle quadrant and the flight stick. The price paid was INR 14,000 odd. Going by the previous reviews I was led to believe that the pedals are not included. Therefore I had ordered the pedals separately as well, which I am now in the process of returning. I have a long history of flight simming and have owned various HOTAS systems from Saitek (X45, X52), Saitek flight yoke and throttle quadrant, and CH Flight Yoke and CH rudder pedals. I still own the latter two. I purchased this box set to satisfy my recently returned passion for flight simming and the fact that my CH items were inaccessible due to COVID19 travel restrictions. This set does everything it’s supposed to do and that too at a very attractive price point. The axes are reasonably smooth and the build quality is great for a mostly plastic device. Ergonomics are good too. The throttle is a slider type mechanism which is new to me. Take a bit away from the realism of a pivoting mechanism. But ends up occupying less space. The pedals are smooth and move on stainless steel rails. Only gripe here is they are a bit too close to each other. Bottom line being this package is worth it and should be considered as the bare minimum if you are a serious simmer.

I bought this product in order to play Flight and Space Simulators. Some of the games I play are: Elite Dangerous, War Thunder and I tried out Flight Simulator X a while back. I even used this HOTAS Bundle playing Arma 3 and other games where it is supported. Pros: - The Flight Stick/Throttle have been designed SO well. There are button everywhere and nothing gets in the way and every button makes sense and nothing is missing. - Extremely comfortable for right handed and left handed people (You can even do a dual flight stick setup, it supports it well and for left-handed people, there are pieces which come with the product to transform the flight stick into a left-handed flight stick) - This HOTAS has a software which was developed specifically for it and it is your control panel for your entire bundle. It is called T.A.R.G.E.T and you can find a bunch of ready-to-use customizations on Thrustmaster's website to help you hit the ground running, in-case you don't know or don't feel like setting it up yourself. They even have diagrams of each product and guides on how to use them. - The response and accuracy of the Flight Stick/Throttle/Rudder Pedals is absolutely flawless. So accurate, so smooth. It isn't as smooth as the Warthog for example but that Flight Stick/Throttle is made from mostly metalic parts and is way more expensive but it is still very smooth and I believe has a much greater accuracy than the Warthog or any other product currently on the market, hence the number in the name (16000m). Cons: - The included software: T.A.R.G.E.T isn't very user friendly at first. For those who struggle, check some videos on youtube and there is a bunch of content all over the web which will teach you how to use it. I studied I.T. and overall I am comfortable with computers and software I never used in the past but some people might find it a little complicated and I know it had some bugs but I am pretty sure it is all fixed. I don't have any issues with it. - Sometimes when I use the Flight Stick/Throttle/Rudder Pedals, they slide on my desk/floor. It is because they are not too heavy but a lot of people don't realize that when you get into this hobby, you need the proper mounts and desks and common sense. You can fix this "problem" by adding more non-skid stickers on the base of the products. The Rudder Pedals can be place on a carpet like surface. Mounts aren't cheap but you can even fashion something yourself with a DIY guide, some of the DIY guides are very affordable. - I noticed that the Throttle is becoming sticky and hard to slide when not usedfor a prolonged duration of time. If you haven't used it in months, you will definitely notice it. Now, all you need is some lithium grease and it is very easy to do. If you want to avoid opening up your throttle, all you gotta do is slide it all the way up, turn it upside down and loosen the screw A LITTLE. This is not altering your product in any way, it was included on purpose for people to customize the level of resistence the trottle presents. After using it for a bit, it works just fine but I would add a VERY small amount of lithium grease in the future most likely. Bottom line: The biggest Pro is the fact this is an amazing quality HOTAS for a very accepatable price (sometimes goes on sale). I reserached A LOT prior to purchasing this bundle. I know all the pros and cons of the other bundles and other individual joysitcks and throttles. It is a fact that gamers who own some of the more or a lot more expensive Joysticks, admit that The Thrustmaster HOTAS 16000M bested some of the most expensive HOTAS in the market with their new design and inovative thinking. Owning such devices requires you to learn how to maintain them, it goes without saying that a lot of people don't realize that. Just like owning a car requires you to become somewhat knowledgable of certain troubleshooting and repairing/maintaining. This is by far the best set up for Space Simulators and an AMAZING set up for any flight related games. Sure, you will need to buy more supporting products as you progress for some simulators which take flying very seriously and take the realism of it to a next level but I know people who have less and say they have all they need and they are doing well. Keep in mind that if you get the Rudder Pedals (which really aren't a must have but I love them) you will need to buy an extra dongle (POWER CORD 15A 125V 3') for about $30CAD. It is actually a good thing due to a proper design so be happy about that. It will make it work better than the competition. This is really all you will ever need to buy for Flight/Space games and if you want to add some other products down the road, it will support it and give you even a bigger immersion into reality.

Using this to play Rise of Flight and I love it! Apart from the fact that Win10 remaps the joystick numbers all the time. But that is no fault of this product.